Friday, May 29, 2009
Jury In Drew Peterson’s Criminal Trial Hangs!
Chicago, IL—A 12-member jury heard the evidence and could not reach a unanimous verdict in the "trial" of murder suspect Drew Peterson.
The jury was picked from random observers at Chicago’s Kent College of Law. Available evidence was presented at a Mock Trial held before retired Cook County Circuit court Judge Richard E. Neville at the school’s Marovitz Courtroom.
The case was prosecuted by WGN radio co-host of Legally Speaking, and lawyer Karen Conti who guided jurors through Peterson’s failings as a husband along with his lecherous fondness for young women. Conti fell short of having any physical evidence that tied Drew Peterson to the death.
Conti had to deal with the original and follow up autopsy results finding Kathleen Savio’s death was the result of an accidental drowning presumably in her own bathtub. Conti suggested the Coroner’s Jury’s verdict was unduly influenced by a member that was a cop that had once worked with Peterson.
The Savio/Peterson marriage was described by Conti as a violent one where both parties called local police on 18 occasions. There was never an incident where either party suffered an apparent injury.
The Defense was presented by lawyer Joseph Lopez. He described Savio as being a feisty woman upset with Peterson’s dumping her for a younger woman.
Lopez hammered at the weakness of the state’s case and suggested that the hearsay evidence offered by Peterson’s now missing young wife Stacy Peterson was unreliable.
Noting that Stacy Peterson was involved with at least one new lover, she met her young minister, Neil Schori, not at a church but at a local restaurant. The ministered claim was that Stacy Peterson revealed that her husband confessed killing his third wife and expressed her own fears she was next in line for murder.
The best advice the minister claimed he could give was to, “Go home and pray about it.” Lopez insisted that the minister had an obligation to tell the young woman to flee from the danger and notify the authorities. The strong suggestion was that of deception by the young minister.
The jury was instructed by Judge Neville and retired for a 30 minute attempt at deliberations. The jury was split six-six and could not agree on a verdict.
The jury panel consisted of nurses, sales people, a banker, office manager and retired folks.
The public event was sponsored by WGN Radio and Moderated by another WGN Legally Speaking co-host lawyer, Greg Adamski. Also on board the trial was jury consultant, Dr. Cindy Adams.
This mini-trial made it clear that prosecutors will have an uphill battle to convict the retired cop of killing his third wife even with questionable hearsay evidence.
That was assuming that the new “Drew Peterson Hearsay Law” stands certain legal challenges even before a real trial will begin.
The entire event was recorded and will be broadcast by WGN on June 14 and 15.
In a related matter yesterday, Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow filed a motion on Wednesday to gag Peterson’s defense attorneys from leaking any information from discovery documents, which must be turned over to Peterson's legal team for the first time next week.
Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Police, Pink Slips and Gun Rights
Ohio, USA-Cash strapped Toledo and Columbus are laying-off cops. Because Ohio is a right to carry state, many citizens will be ready for most anything including those dreaded pink slips.
Like cops the armed citizens need to learn not to bite off more than they can chew and call for back-up. If the police can’t come, arrange it with a well trained neighbor or two to act as your back-up.
Should you come home and find the door broken or otherwise suspect someone is in your home don’t ever try making a house clearing without competent help. Wait for the burglars outside and confront them there. If they threaten you fire shots until the threat passes.
Through it all remember the four words to tell inquiring police, "I want a lawyer" and NOTHING else. Let a neighbor make any 911 calls. Stay off the 911 operator’s recording of your words. Don’t ever answer any questions other than name and address and if you need police or an ambulance.
The 911 operators are trained to redundantly try to get you to incriminate yourself so don’t play their game.
Saying that really lame, “I was in fear of my life” crap is an AMISSION THAT YOU SHOT SOMEONE. Don’t confess, say nothing at all. That’s your right!
Buying A Car From A Bailed Out Car Maker Is Un-American.
Washington, DC: As Barack Obama seizes control of car makers, firing their CEOs and installing his party faithful patronage hacks to run these companies I refuse to buy any the products at any price.
We can all refuse and still let these companies fail sending a message straight to the Whitehouse. My GM days are over for good. It’s too bad but I’d rather drive a Kia.
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
Why do Gays Need Marriage?
I have no problem with what Gays do behind closed doors. I’m not anti-Gay but I believe marriage is about a mom, dad and the strong probability of children.
Gays don’t need this strictly symbolic legal status. It makes a mockery out of marriage when gays call themselves husbands and wives. In the case of a transgender person I’d concede that could be a legitimate marriage.
Civil Unions are the way to go for Gays. They can have their honeymoons and give each other presents and such. They can carryon anyway they choose as long as the peace is not breached.
As for Gay adoption, I support it for those in committed relationships that will protect the children. There are so many children put through horrible abuse by their natural parents. There are plenty of kids that need a safe refuge. There is the not so simple issue of a boy growing up sharing with his schoolmates that he has two daddies. I don’t have a clue how that will not cause ridicule and a beating.
Guys have to be more reasonable that to demand a right to marriage when they don’t fit the mold. No matter what the law says the fact that marriage requires both a man and a woman does not change.
Gays don’t need this strictly symbolic legal status. It makes a mockery out of marriage when gays call themselves husbands and wives. In the case of a transgender person I’d concede that could be a legitimate marriage.
Civil Unions are the way to go for Gays. They can have their honeymoons and give each other presents and such. They can carryon anyway they choose as long as the peace is not breached.
As for Gay adoption, I support it for those in committed relationships that will protect the children. There are so many children put through horrible abuse by their natural parents. There are plenty of kids that need a safe refuge. There is the not so simple issue of a boy growing up sharing with his schoolmates that he has two daddies. I don’t have a clue how that will not cause ridicule and a beating.
Guys have to be more reasonable that to demand a right to marriage when they don’t fit the mold. No matter what the law says the fact that marriage requires both a man and a woman does not change.
Just What We Don’t Need!
Washington, DC—Another judicial activist with a black robe who will circumvent lawmakers with her own Bolshevik ideas has been nominated for the US Supreme Court. Sonia Sotomayor plainly stated that she is a policy maker right here.
How much longer must we tolerate that Marxist despot in the Whitehouse? Please call your US Senator and demand this woman not be appointed.
How much longer must we tolerate that Marxist despot in the Whitehouse? Please call your US Senator and demand this woman not be appointed.
Monday, May 25, 2009
Cell Phones And Prisons
Sacramento, CA—They want yet another law to control prisoners. They are demanding that possession of a cell phone in a prison be made a felony.
Yes, cell phones can be used for nefarious activity but this as a problem is way overblown. I’m in favor of giving inmates cell phones and monitored Internet access.
You can’t get far into the Internet if you can’t read or write. It only makes sense to encourage Internet activity. Computer literate inmates will be more employable upon release that those deprived of this activity.
I have no difficulty with the idea of punishing inmates that commit crimes while in prison. This cell phone crap is more about total control than anything else. This is a different matter in some supermax facility where the inmate will never again see freedom. Most inmates will get out of custody for sure.
Yes, cell phones can be used for nefarious activity but this as a problem is way overblown. I’m in favor of giving inmates cell phones and monitored Internet access.
You can’t get far into the Internet if you can’t read or write. It only makes sense to encourage Internet activity. Computer literate inmates will be more employable upon release that those deprived of this activity.
I have no difficulty with the idea of punishing inmates that commit crimes while in prison. This cell phone crap is more about total control than anything else. This is a different matter in some supermax facility where the inmate will never again see freedom. Most inmates will get out of custody for sure.
A Green Idea From A Conservative.
Want to save millions of barrels of oil? Want to save lots of natural gas and electricity? Want to reduce automobile accidents? Want three day weekends?
That sounds too go to be true doesn’t it? It’s really quite simple we all go to a four-day, ten-hour work week. We take off Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Schools can do the same as to not create problems with families. The savings in non-renewable energy resources would be spectacular. The saving to businesses and workers would stimulate the economy better than anything our worthless President has proposed.
There are those businesses that need to stay open like grocery stores, restaurants and movie theaters. These businesses will just continue as they always have.
This is a simple fix that will help America get back on its feet sooner.
That sounds too go to be true doesn’t it? It’s really quite simple we all go to a four-day, ten-hour work week. We take off Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Schools can do the same as to not create problems with families. The savings in non-renewable energy resources would be spectacular. The saving to businesses and workers would stimulate the economy better than anything our worthless President has proposed.
There are those businesses that need to stay open like grocery stores, restaurants and movie theaters. These businesses will just continue as they always have.
This is a simple fix that will help America get back on its feet sooner.
Sunday, May 24, 2009
It’s Time To Retire These Clowns.
Chicago, IL—After a 1960’s major bail bond scandal here involving a prominent Cook County judge, laws were changed. The entire business was jettisoned from the courts in Illinois and the court clerks took over and things were simplified.
The court clerks under the new law would temporarily keep ten percent of the total bail amount required and posted. After an accused defendant made all of his required appearances 90% of the money would be refunded to him or his lawyer by agreement. Conventional bail bond companies keep all of the ten percent as their fee. This money is better used when diverted to defense lawyers.
Absconders would be hunted down by police not clowns like “Dog” The Bounty Hunter. The real benefit is that often lawyers would accept the bond slips as partial payment for services and that cut down the amount of public defenders needed. Should the defendant abscond the court clerk keeps the money. This became a win-win situation for all but the bail bondmen.
Bail bondsmen are a throwback to the olden days of Wyatt Earp and bounty hunters collecting rewards. Those days are gone in Illinois and the entire country would be better off if they followed suit.
In the case of anyone arrested for a simple misdemeanor offense and the accused has no a felony conviction or history of failure to appear release on a simple promise to appear statement makes sense. Jail space is needed for dangerous or repetitive criminals.
The court clerks under the new law would temporarily keep ten percent of the total bail amount required and posted. After an accused defendant made all of his required appearances 90% of the money would be refunded to him or his lawyer by agreement. Conventional bail bond companies keep all of the ten percent as their fee. This money is better used when diverted to defense lawyers.
Absconders would be hunted down by police not clowns like “Dog” The Bounty Hunter. The real benefit is that often lawyers would accept the bond slips as partial payment for services and that cut down the amount of public defenders needed. Should the defendant abscond the court clerk keeps the money. This became a win-win situation for all but the bail bondmen.
Bail bondsmen are a throwback to the olden days of Wyatt Earp and bounty hunters collecting rewards. Those days are gone in Illinois and the entire country would be better off if they followed suit.
In the case of anyone arrested for a simple misdemeanor offense and the accused has no a felony conviction or history of failure to appear release on a simple promise to appear statement makes sense. Jail space is needed for dangerous or repetitive criminals.
Saturday, May 23, 2009
A song for my visitors…
We’ve had enough mayhem and politics already. Here is some of what really matters in our world.
It’s Time for a politician and bureaucrat Pay Cut
As the politicians and their appointed bureaucrats cut jobs, and tax people everywhere they seem to forget to make their own sacrifices. We have a national financial emergency at every level of government in America.
Elected politicians and appointed officials from the President on down, need to lead by example. The salaries for all these officials should be cut by at least 25% until we can fix our financial woes.
Exceptions can be made for those earning less than $75,000.00 per year.
Elected politicians and appointed officials from the President on down, need to lead by example. The salaries for all these officials should be cut by at least 25% until we can fix our financial woes.
Exceptions can be made for those earning less than $75,000.00 per year.
California Unleashing Tens Of Thousands Of Prisoners Early
Sacramento, CA—Even the Liberal California voters have had enough tax extortion from their public officials and voted down a load of new tax increases. Of Course these same official’s priorities will defy common sense as they fight to end important programs and save the crap most don’t need or want.
Soon they will release over 60,000 prison inmates to the streets early at a time when unemployment is sky high. They will renew their drug habits and get money the only way they can. Violent crimes will soon be off the charts. That as California diligently enforces their laws against concealed weapons on law-abiding citizens.
There is only one solution here and that’s massive civil disobedience. The concealed weapons prohibition violates the Second Amendment and is unenforceable anyway. The lower courts may convict but appeals will be successful.
There is a valid legal defense with respect to violating certain laws like gun laws. That is the necessity defense. That defense kicks in when conditions make violating the law necessary to preserve life, in this case your own. With all the prisoners on the loose fear is a rational response. Of course there will be fiscal curbs on law enforcement resources too. That indeed makes necessity a viable defense.
We can count on fools within state government to proclaim the prisoner exodus will not endanger the public. Anyone believing that is a bigger fool. The actual threat of these criminals dumped on the streets is very real and very dangerous. Carjackings and other robberies will spike along with related murders.
If you choose to carry a firearm do so discreetly. Exercise conflict avoidance and avoid alcohol while you are armed. If stopped by police don’t volunteer to be frisked and if your gun is discovered do not say anything other than to ask for a lawyer. Be polite and non-threatening at all times.
The good news here is they can’t afford the jail space to keep you locked up if you have no criminal history or outstanding warrants. You may find yourself released without posting bail. Be sure to show up for court dates and tell your lawyer that you want to use the necessity defense along with your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Soon they will release over 60,000 prison inmates to the streets early at a time when unemployment is sky high. They will renew their drug habits and get money the only way they can. Violent crimes will soon be off the charts. That as California diligently enforces their laws against concealed weapons on law-abiding citizens.
There is only one solution here and that’s massive civil disobedience. The concealed weapons prohibition violates the Second Amendment and is unenforceable anyway. The lower courts may convict but appeals will be successful.
There is a valid legal defense with respect to violating certain laws like gun laws. That is the necessity defense. That defense kicks in when conditions make violating the law necessary to preserve life, in this case your own. With all the prisoners on the loose fear is a rational response. Of course there will be fiscal curbs on law enforcement resources too. That indeed makes necessity a viable defense.
We can count on fools within state government to proclaim the prisoner exodus will not endanger the public. Anyone believing that is a bigger fool. The actual threat of these criminals dumped on the streets is very real and very dangerous. Carjackings and other robberies will spike along with related murders.
If you choose to carry a firearm do so discreetly. Exercise conflict avoidance and avoid alcohol while you are armed. If stopped by police don’t volunteer to be frisked and if your gun is discovered do not say anything other than to ask for a lawyer. Be polite and non-threatening at all times.
The good news here is they can’t afford the jail space to keep you locked up if you have no criminal history or outstanding warrants. You may find yourself released without posting bail. Be sure to show up for court dates and tell your lawyer that you want to use the necessity defense along with your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Friday, May 22, 2009
Drew Peterson To Remain In Jail For The Time Being.
JOLIET, Il-Desperate Will County prosecutors now claim retired Bolingbrook police sergeant Drew Peterson tried to hire a hitman to murder his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
Solicitation to commit murder is always a crime and Peterson’s never been charged with that kind of an offense. Since Peterson has not been charged with solicitation it’s a meaningless accusation.
The lack of credibility for such a claim screams as prosecutors successfully headed off a defense effort to reduce the staggering $20 million dollar bail bond keeping Peterson behind bars.
The claim is Peterson offered to pay $25,000 for the murder os Savio who was later found dead in her bathtub. Prosecutors also say Peterson told a fellow officer that he’d be better off if Savio was dead because he’d be financially destroyed by his pending divorce.
Will County Circuit Court Judge Carla J. Alessio-Policandriotesow refused to lower Peterson's bail. Now it’s off to the Illinois Court of Appeals for lawyer Joel Brodsky where he will seek a review of the judge’s action. Stay tuned for further developments.
Solicitation to commit murder is always a crime and Peterson’s never been charged with that kind of an offense. Since Peterson has not been charged with solicitation it’s a meaningless accusation.
The lack of credibility for such a claim screams as prosecutors successfully headed off a defense effort to reduce the staggering $20 million dollar bail bond keeping Peterson behind bars.
The claim is Peterson offered to pay $25,000 for the murder os Savio who was later found dead in her bathtub. Prosecutors also say Peterson told a fellow officer that he’d be better off if Savio was dead because he’d be financially destroyed by his pending divorce.
Will County Circuit Court Judge Carla J. Alessio-Policandriotesow refused to lower Peterson's bail. Now it’s off to the Illinois Court of Appeals for lawyer Joel Brodsky where he will seek a review of the judge’s action. Stay tuned for further developments.
Obama, A friendly New Face On Ancient Government Tyranny
Washington, DC—Make no mistake about it we and our country is under attack. The enemy is dismantling free enterprise, our economy and our way of life is being destroyed. That enemy is Barack Obama.
Slavery was allegedly ended by the 16th President, Abraham Lincoln. It’s now back with a vengeance as Americans are delegated to being extortion victims by an all powerful despot. We are already slaves but it will be so much worse for our children.
Barack Obama’s only solution will bring Martial Law and Waco style brute force everywhere. Americans are beginning to waken and show resistance to Obama’s attack on freedom. Is it already too late? It is time to provide Obama with a strong ultimatum follow the Constitution or face removal, whatever that takes.
America, its way of life and the freedom we fought for is under the most serious attack ever. Obama must be stopped and his machine dismantled at once or we may never recover.
Americans must do whatever is necessary to remove this Communist Traitor from the Whitehouse while sending a solid message to his minions in Congress that a hangman’s noose may await them.
The ignorance of Americans must end. Tell your friends that freedom is not free, it’s only earned with the blood of patriots.
Slavery was allegedly ended by the 16th President, Abraham Lincoln. It’s now back with a vengeance as Americans are delegated to being extortion victims by an all powerful despot. We are already slaves but it will be so much worse for our children.
Barack Obama’s only solution will bring Martial Law and Waco style brute force everywhere. Americans are beginning to waken and show resistance to Obama’s attack on freedom. Is it already too late? It is time to provide Obama with a strong ultimatum follow the Constitution or face removal, whatever that takes.
America, its way of life and the freedom we fought for is under the most serious attack ever. Obama must be stopped and his machine dismantled at once or we may never recover.
Americans must do whatever is necessary to remove this Communist Traitor from the Whitehouse while sending a solid message to his minions in Congress that a hangman’s noose may await them.
The ignorance of Americans must end. Tell your friends that freedom is not free, it’s only earned with the blood of patriots.
Highlights from The NRA Convention In Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ—For those that missed this great event I have brought you some highlights!
Thursday, May 21, 2009
Autopsy Results Are In Sans Sex, Race, Age Or Cause Of Death
Channahon, IL—The partial body found adjacent to the Des Plaines River, near Interstate 55 in Channahon has been examined. The two prominent women who are missing from that area, Lisa Stebic and Stacy Peterson are still missing.
There will be more information forthcoming to at least officially rule out any possibility of any connection to Peterson or Stebic.
The Official Press release:
Joliet, IL---The human remains found yesterday
PATRICK K. O’NEIL, F-ABMDI
Coroner of Will County, Illinois
Date: 5/21/2009 For Immediate Release
The Office of Will County Coroner Patrick K. O’Neil is reporting the forensic examination results of partial skeletal remains that were discovered on Wednesday, May 20, 2009. The preliminary forensic examination performed today, May 21, 2009, did not reveal any significant information in reference to the identity, race or sex of the skeletal remains. The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right femur bones. The head, arms and below the knee extremities were disarticulated. The search continues for the missing remains. A forensic investigation continues as to whether the disarticulation is a result of a postmortem (after death) artifact or antemortem injury. O’Neil said, “Positive identification may hinge on forensic DNA analysis which is being expedited through the Illinois State Police Forensic Crime Laboratory. “ The Will County Coroner’s Office was given a conservative time frame in receiving forensic DNA and forensic anthropology results of approximately two (2) weeks. A preliminary estimation of how long the unidentified person has been deceased is approximately several months or more.
Additional information: Some other items that were discovered include shreds of blue jeans that contained a small amount of U. S. currency.
The Illinois State Police is investigating the incident. The cause and manner of death remain under investigation. Anyone with any information is asked to contact the Illinois State Police. No further information is available at this time. Updates will be provided when received.
Office: (815) 727-8455 Fax: (815) 727-8816 57 N. Ottawa Street, Suite 412 Joliet, Illinois 60432
This Woman Is Exactly Why California is A Total Mess
Sacramento, CA--California Speaker of the State Assembly Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles) says the budget is “too complicated” for the voters to understand.
Bass actively campaigned for the tax extortion programs soundly defeated by California’s exceptionally Liberal voters. If it was too radical for even California voters, it shows just how far out of step Bass is with the people whose pockets she’s picking. The real problem for Bass is that the voters understood this tax and budget mess only too well.
Karen Bass, please do us a favor and drop dead.
Bass actively campaigned for the tax extortion programs soundly defeated by California’s exceptionally Liberal voters. If it was too radical for even California voters, it shows just how far out of step Bass is with the people whose pockets she’s picking. The real problem for Bass is that the voters understood this tax and budget mess only too well.
Karen Bass, please do us a favor and drop dead.
Want to Save Billions? Eliminate The Death Penalty.
Hate murderers? Want to see them punished severely? You need to know a well kept secret. Death penalty cases are litigated, literally to death. The lawyers battle each case for no less than 20 or even 30 years on the average.
The court time, prosecution and defense with gaggles of expert witnesses are all paid by guess who? We are talking about millions of dollars per each condemned inmate.
If the killers are executed they are spared a miserable life of crappy living conditions and food to living with violent scummy fellow inmates. Many people chose suicide over a prison stay anyway.
Depending on the state of confinement it only costs $30 to $65 thousand a year to provide what it takes to keep killers in prison. It would save billions to end the death penalty. Then there are the multitudes of cases where cops and prosecutors get it wrong. Inmates freed after years of confinement because of solid new evidence sue and collect millions more from the taxpayers.
Aside from government getting it wrong and executing and innocent no government should have the power to execute their own citizens. Do we trust Barack Obama and his band of Marxists with that kind of raw power? Think about how Communist governments have killed endless millions of their own citizens.
Wednesday, May 20, 2009
BREAKING NEWS! Woman’s Body Found in South Suburban Chicago
Channahon, IL--Illinois State Police have reportedly pulled a body from the Des Plaines River, near Interstate 55 in Channahon. There are two prominent women who are missing from that area, Lisa Stebic and of course Stacy Peterson.
Details are difficult to obtain right now other than that the body was severely decomposed. Identification is almost certain but determination of the cause of death will prove to be a major challenge.
Some local media reports have claimed the remains were perhaps 30 pounds of bones with underwear. The underwear may be a clue to the corpse’s sex but finding the manner and cause of death will be nearly impossible considering the conditions involved. They will be able to determine the approximate height of the person involved by the bones left behind.
The earlier reports suggesting this was a White woman are probably beyond anyone’s ability. Ruling these remains out as Stebic or Peterson will be easier and quicker than making a positive identification.
Illinois State Police are on the scene processing it. In a large metropolitan area bodies are found on a regular basis.
A few details can be found here.
California Downsize Government? Never!
The Bolshevik Republic of California—They’ve literally taxed and spent themselves to death. This nanny state that educates and provides free medical care for much of Mexico and Central America never let a lack of their own money slow them dowm.
This state has every convoluted gun control law they could possibly invent and spend billions nitpicking and aggravating law–abiding gun owners.
They invent boards and commissions to over-regulate every profession. There you need a special license to do anything beyond clipping your own toenails. California layers government everywhere they can.
California does not have a public building that’s not staffed by security guards that frisk ever visitor like a criminal. The entire country went through two centuries and a Civil War without that kind of intrusion.
Should California really have to make budget cuts they will start by releasing tens of thousands repetitive criminals from their prisons. California is very lenient on all but gun owners anyway.
The last cuts they will make are the never ending benefits to criminal aliens.
Voters have rejected additional tax schemes and now they are trying to get fiscally responsible states to pay for their outrageous folly. This is happening as taxpayers have fled this bankrupt, Socialist failure.
California’s politicians won’t learn downsizing until the citizen’s start hanging them as the common criminals they’ve proven to be.
This state has every convoluted gun control law they could possibly invent and spend billions nitpicking and aggravating law–abiding gun owners.
They invent boards and commissions to over-regulate every profession. There you need a special license to do anything beyond clipping your own toenails. California layers government everywhere they can.
California does not have a public building that’s not staffed by security guards that frisk ever visitor like a criminal. The entire country went through two centuries and a Civil War without that kind of intrusion.
Should California really have to make budget cuts they will start by releasing tens of thousands repetitive criminals from their prisons. California is very lenient on all but gun owners anyway.
The last cuts they will make are the never ending benefits to criminal aliens.
Voters have rejected additional tax schemes and now they are trying to get fiscally responsible states to pay for their outrageous folly. This is happening as taxpayers have fled this bankrupt, Socialist failure.
California’s politicians won’t learn downsizing until the citizen’s start hanging them as the common criminals they’ve proven to be.
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